Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/02/2002 08:05 AM House STA

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HB 324 - HOMELAND SECURITY APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2188                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced that the next order of business would be                                                                
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  324,  "An Act  making  supplemental  and  other                                                               
appropriations  for  homeland  security;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1995                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEL  SMITH,  Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of  Public  Safety                                                               
(DPS), reported that  since September 11, 2001, there  has been a                                                               
lot  of  activity particularly  in  the  Disaster Policy  Cabinet                                                               
(DPC)  which is  trying to  determine  what the  State of  Alaska                                                               
needs to do  to ensure security and  protect the infrastructures.                                                               
Its  recommendations   ultimately  became  a  bill   before  this                                                               
legislature.     The  Department  of  Public   Safety  made  some                                                               
recommendations  based  upon  requests from  other  agencies  and                                                               
departments about  what was  needed in the  way of  state trooper                                                               
and  department  support.   When  the  bill was  introduced,  the                                                               
governor  requested  some  hearings  in December  which  did  not                                                               
occur.   This bill  was introduced  in January,  and there  are a                                                               
number of things that cannot  be accomplished this year, so those                                                               
have been moved into the out years.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  referred the  members  to  the spreadsheet  in  their                                                               
packets to category  1, item 11, which requests  $288,200 for the                                                               
temporary checkpoint  at the Yukon  River Bridge.   Subsequent to                                                               
September 11, that was one  of the highest recommendations of the                                                               
DPC and  intervening events based  upon recommendations  from the                                                               
national level  about a  terrorist perhaps  coming about,  led to                                                               
that checkpoint  being established, and  it ran through  April 5,                                                               
2002.    It was  staffed  by  personnel  from the  Department  of                                                               
Military  & Veterans'  Affairs (DMVA)  and  Alaska Defense  Force                                                               
(ADF), but  it was manned by  two Alaska State Troopers  on a 24-                                                               
hour  day  basis  for  that  period  of  time.    So,  there  are                                                               
substantial costs to establishing the checkpoint.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1955                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked  if  any  of  this  was  taken  up  in  the                                                               
supplemental [budget].                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  said   it  was  not  asked  for   in  the  fast-track                                                               
supplemental, but the $288,200 is  being asked for however it can                                                               
be gotten  because it has been  expended.  He clarified  that the                                                               
DMVA  portion for  the  ADF was  funded in  a  recent fast  track                                                               
supplemental.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1908                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  referred  to  category 2,  item  18,  which  requests                                                               
$432,000 in  federal funding for  HazMat suits for 480  state and                                                               
local law  enforcement officers.   He  explained that  category 1                                                               
funds have already  been spent.  Category 2  requests will result                                                               
in  a  loss  of  federal funding  if  they're  not  appropriated.                                                               
Category  3   requests  are  considered  essential   to  homeland                                                               
security and are in order of  priority.  Item 67 requests $64,900                                                               
for  the   Trans-Alaska  Pipeline   defense  drill.     This  was                                                               
originally scheduled  for August 2002,  but due to the  events of                                                               
September  11, it  has  been moved  up  to June  2002.   It  will                                                               
involve  the FBI  [Federal Bureau  of  Investigation], local  law                                                               
enforcement, and  Alaska State Troopers  over a  five-day period.                                                               
He said it is critical that the DPS participate in this.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1688                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  referred  to  item  68  which  provides  four  border                                                               
crossings with  access to criminal  information.  It  is critical                                                               
for the border stations to have  the ability to check on somebody                                                               
24  hours  a  day,  7  days  a week.    Currently,  that  is  not                                                               
available.    He  explained that  federal  agencies  operate  the                                                               
border  stations, but  they do  access the  Alaska Public  Safety                                                               
Information Network  (APSIN) and  the National  Crime Information                                                               
Center (NCIC).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL asked  if there  was  federal money  for a  border                                                               
check.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH replied  not at  this point.   He  replied to  another                                                               
question and  said that  the federal authorities  now in  some of                                                               
the  remote border  stations  use  a "dial-up"  as  opposed to  a                                                               
dedicated line to access APSIN.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  asked about border checkpoints  being open                                                               
24 hours a day.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  said he wasn't sure  but didn't believe that  they are                                                               
24-hour stations.   He informed the members that  the four border                                                               
crossings are Skagway, Poker Creek, Dalton Cache, and Northway.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1520                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  referred  to  item 69  which  requests  $200,000  for                                                               
computer  hardware  and  software for  an  expanded  intelligence                                                               
system.  He noted that  a substantial amount of information about                                                               
suspicious people flowed in after  September 11 and continues to,                                                               
and it  is critical to be  able to sort out  this information and                                                               
send it back to the appropriate agency to check out.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1439                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH referred  to item 70 which requests  two state troopers                                                               
and  two   civilians  for  analysis   and  surveillance   of  the                                                               
information  that has  come  in.   Currently,  there  is a  state                                                               
trooper assigned who works out of  the FBI office, but this would                                                               
be in addition to that.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1373                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH referred to item  71 which requests $1,556,900 for four                                                               
state  troopers,   five  village  public  safety   officers,  two                                                               
regional public  safety officers, and support  costs for homeland                                                               
security.   This  is a  smaller amount  than what  was originally                                                               
asked  for  additional  personnel.   He  explained  that  village                                                               
public safety officers have to  do with homeland security in that                                                               
if  they are  the only  law enforcement  presence in  a location,                                                               
they are  the people to provide  information to and know  what is                                                               
going on in the community.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1270                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  explained that  category  4  has additional  requests                                                               
considered important  to homeland  security but  are too  late to                                                               
implement in  2002.   He said the  items are  additional requests                                                               
for Alaska State  Troopers in various areas around  the state and                                                               
various activities.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1109                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES asked if there  are people out there to hire                                                               
for these positions if the money is there.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  answered that  he  has  been  told that  the  current                                                               
recruitment  for the  fall academy  has had  more responses  than                                                               
anytime  in the  past,  so people  are at  least  asking for  the                                                               
applications.  He  said there has been  an aggressive advertising                                                               
program,  but there  has been  some difficulty  around the  state                                                               
recruiting qualified  people.  Right  now there is a  good supply                                                               
of  people  expressing  an  interest in  being  an  Alaska  State                                                               
Trooper.   He  said he  doesn't  think there  was sufficient  law                                                               
enforcement in this  state prior to September 11, and  he is sure                                                               
there isn't now.   Under one proposed budget there  would be less                                                               
[law enforcement] than there is currently.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0982                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAMES  asked how many applicants  actually make it                                                               
through.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH replied  that  in ballpark  figures,  there have  been                                                               
about  2,000 requests  for  an application  packet.   There  were                                                               
about 150  who qualified for background  checks, and 30 or  40 of                                                               
those were interviewed.   Ideally, he would like  to interview 10                                                               
people for one position.  It  is substantially lower than that at                                                               
the moment, which  is only 2 or 3 applicants  being interview for                                                               
one position.   He also told  the committee that recently  one of                                                               
the applicants  didn't even get  to complete the  academy because                                                               
he was called to active duty.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said  he thought that the whole  economy is feeling                                                               
a workforce depression.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0640                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH reiterated  that there has been money  expended, and it                                                               
is critical that the department get  that back to make it through                                                               
the year.  He stated that the exercise in June is also critical.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0418                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,  Division of  Administrative  Services,                                                               
Department of Transportation &  Public Facilities, explained that                                                               
most  of the  items  in  the categories  on  the spreadsheet  are                                                               
requirements  by the  federal government.    After September  11,                                                               
there was  a great impact upon  the airports, and Alaska  was the                                                               
first state  to have its airports  back in operation.   The whole                                                               
issue  of security  goes beyond  the airports  to the  roads, the                                                               
marine  highway system,  and bridges.   Everything  is looked  at                                                               
totally different now, she commented.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SLAGLE  informed  the  members  that  the  Federal  Aviation                                                               
Administration came  down with directions  for the  department on                                                               
how to  deal with what is  required.  Those were  changing almost                                                               
on  a  daily  basis  after  September  11,  and  they  are  still                                                               
changing.      Now   that   the   new   Transportation   Security                                                               
Administration  (TSA) has  been developed,  the directions  still                                                               
seem to be changing.  For  example, the National Guard has pulled                                                               
out   of   the   airports,  and   the   Transportation   Security                                                               
Administration  is supposed  to be  taking those  functions over,                                                               
but it is not yet  able to do that, so, it is up  to the state to                                                               
fill in the hole between the  National Guard and the TSA's taking                                                               
over.   It is  the department's understanding  that the  TSA will                                                               
cover most of  the costs to provide the  law enforcement presence                                                               
at the screening point, but maybe  not all of it.  The department                                                               
is trying to  get law enforcement for the airports,  but it can't                                                               
just contract  a security  agency, it must  be a  certified, gun-                                                               
carrying, law  enforcement presence.   The issues  are continuing                                                               
on a daily basis for the department.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0230                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  asked how many  airports have a  bridge to                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0165                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FRANK   RICHARDS,    State   Maintenance    Engineer,   Statewide                                                               
Maintenance,   Office   of   the  Commissioner,   Department   of                                                               
Transportation & Public Facilities,  answered that both Ketchikan                                                               
and Sitka  have bridge access.   He noted that there  are bridges                                                               
in Kodiak but not in direct access leading to the airport.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0143                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE said the department has  been able to get some federal                                                               
dollars  to   take  care   of  the   security  presence   at  the                                                               
certificated airports.  She  explained that certificated airports                                                               
allow flights that accommodate 60  passengers in and out.  Valdez                                                               
is  not certificated  because it  doesn't  accommodate the  large                                                               
jets.   The federal  dollars are  not available  to take  care of                                                               
some of  the security  issues there,  and that's  why there  is a                                                               
general  fund  request  to  deal  with  those  similar  types  of                                                               
security issues.   She  reviewed the  items in  category 1.   She                                                               
indicated that  because of the  proximity to the  pipeline, there                                                               
is a  heightened degree of  security needed at that  airport now.                                                               
The  department  spent money  based  on  the direction  from  the                                                               
Disaster  Policy Cabinet  to  improve  the security  requirements                                                               
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-52, SIDE A                                                                                                              
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SLAGLE  referred to  the  next  item  which deals  with  the                                                               
pipeline security issues  and the work that public  safety did on                                                               
the Yukon  Bridge.  It  opened the Fox  weigh station 24  hours a                                                               
day,  7 days  a week  to look  at the  commercial vehicles  going                                                               
through, specifically those transporting hazardous materials.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 0072                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE referred to category  2, which covers items that could                                                               
jeopardize federal  dollars if not  funded.   Item 19 is  the law                                                               
enforcement   presence    at   the   Fairbanks    and   Anchorage                                                               
international airports.   There  is a requirement  for visibility                                                               
of  the  law enforcement  presence  at  those airports  and  some                                                               
federal dollars are  received for that; the  remainder comes from                                                               
international airport revenue.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked what the grant is on that.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0180                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  replied that  there  was  a special  appropriation                                                               
through the Department of Defense to reimburse airports.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE explained  that the department had  applied for grants                                                               
under that appropriation  and had received full  funding from the                                                               
request  that  was  allowable  under that  grant  for  the  rural                                                               
airports and  a portion of  the Fairbanks  International Airport.                                                               
She  indicated that  item  20 is  a capital  project  at the  Ted                                                               
Stevens  Anchorage  International  Airport for  control  systems.                                                               
This  is to  provide  more appropriate  control  systems for  the                                                               
airport in line with the security  needs.  That is mostly federal                                                               
dollars  through  the  entitlement  program; it  is  not  special                                                               
federal dollars.   It is  federal funding, and  the international                                                               
airport revenue funds can match that.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE explained that the  International Airport Revenue Fund                                                               
is made up  of the funds collected from  landing fees, concession                                                               
fees,  and fuel  flowage fees  of the  international airports  in                                                               
Anchorage and Fairbanks.  The state manages that fund.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0429                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE  referred to items 21,  22, 36 which are  requests for                                                               
all  the  communication  equipment  required  to  deal  with  the                                                               
National  Guard or  TSA  or whomever  is going  to  be doing  the                                                               
security  screening and  the  department's  own security  people.                                                               
She indicated  that most of  that at  the rural airports  will be                                                               
federal funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS SLAGLE referred to item 23  and said it is the capital project                                                               
for some  reconfiguration at the Anchorage  and Fairbanks airport                                                               
terminals for security requirements.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS explained that since  September 11, the Aviation and                                                               
Transportation  Security Act  and  the revisions  to the  airport                                                               
security  regulations have  put provisions  onto the  airports to                                                               
reconfigure some  of the  terminal space,  such as  the screening                                                               
checkpoints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0626                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE referred  to items 24, 25, and 26  which are operating                                                               
costs  specifically related  to the  law enforcement  presence at                                                               
the rural airports.  Some are  federal dollars in the grant funds                                                               
received  from the  Department  of Defense  but  will only  cover                                                               
through  September  2002.     That  presence  will   have  to  be                                                               
continued, but  the Department  of Defense  isn't going  to cover                                                               
it, so there are some general fund dollars in there also.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked if there  was consistency at all the airports                                                               
and what the timing is on the waiver.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0700                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered that the  airports in the security programs                                                               
are  categorized  based  on  "enplanements."     Anchorage  is  a                                                               
category  1   airport,  Fairbanks  and  Juneau   are  category  2                                                               
airports,  and the  rural airports  are category  3.   The waiver                                                               
being sought  is essentially for  the rural category  3 airports.                                                               
If the  waiver is granted,  it would  change the numbers  for the                                                               
remainder of 2003.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SLAGLE  indicated that  if  the  waiver isn't  received  the                                                               
actual dollars could go up.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  agreed that the  numbers could go  up considerably.                                                               
Estimates  range   from  $600,000  to  $800,000   per  month  for                                                               
deploying the  National Guard, and the  federal reimbursement for                                                               
law enforcement  officers at the security  checkpoints is $50,000                                                               
per  year per  officer.   There are  not sufficient  funds coming                                                               
from the federal  government to cover those costs.   He said when                                                               
he   and  General   Oates  talked   to   the  Undersecretary   of                                                               
Transportation, headway was gained to  find the importance of the                                                               
rural system  of air commerce and  the threat levels that  may be                                                               
out in some of the  rural communities; therefore, the request for                                                               
alternate procedures likely will be granted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  asked if there is  an inability to secure  some of                                                               
the rural airports.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0886                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS  agreed that it  would be  difficult in the  case of                                                               
large events.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE noted  that there are only 17  category 3 certificated                                                               
airports.   The  other  245  airports are  not  subject to  these                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS explained  that the focus of TSA  has been primarily                                                               
on those  airports that have  security requirements based  on the                                                               
size  of aircraft  flying in,  which  is 60  passenger seats  and                                                               
greater.   The TSA  is looking at  general aviation  security and                                                               
has  yet  to promulgate  regulations.    The department  is  very                                                               
concerned  about  what federal  requirements  will  come down  on                                                               
general aviation security.   As was mentioned, "How  will the 206                                                               
be  secured on  the far  ramp  at Iliamna?"   He  said it's  very                                                               
difficult.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1044                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE referred to item 27  which is a capital project at the                                                               
international airport in Anchorage  dealing with blast assessment                                                               
and  explosive deflection  devices.   It will  strengthen windows                                                               
and construct  some deflection  devices in  lieu of  the 300-foot                                                               
parking setback.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1158                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SLAGLE referred  to  items 28  and 29  which  deal with  the                                                               
additional  costs  associated   with  increased  law  enforcement                                                               
presence at  the Anchorage and Fairbanks  international airports.                                                               
Those items also include some  federal dollars from grant funding                                                               
that has been received.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SLAGLE  referred to item  30 which is actual  modification of                                                               
the  existing  and new  terminals  concerning  new FAA  explosive                                                               
detection devices.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1264                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS explained that the  TSA is the governing agency that                                                               
determines which  explosive detection  systems will be  placed at                                                               
the  nation's airports.   The  large explosive  detection systems                                                               
are slow  compared to the  portable machines.   The CTX  [a brand                                                               
name] machines  are very  large, heavy,  and cumbersome,  and the                                                               
TSA has yet to determine where  the machine will be placed in the                                                               
passenger flow  - whether it's before  or after a person  gets to                                                               
the terminal  agent or down in  the baggage screening area.   The                                                               
cost to  the department to  modify the terminal space  depends on                                                               
where that  machine will go.   It  is a very  expensive endeavor.                                                               
All  the airports  around the  country that  have received  these                                                               
machines  are   looking  at  billions  of   dollars  of  terminal                                                               
modifications.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SLAGLE said  this is  a request  for mostly  federal dollars                                                               
with  International Airport  Revenue Funds  to match  it to  make                                                               
those  terminal  modifications  to accommodate  those  pieces  of                                                               
equipment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1413                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  asked Ms. Slagle  to provide her  with the                                                               
number of  new employees that will  be needed to put  all this in                                                               
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced that HB 324 would be held over.                                                                         

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